If "plain and precious parts" were taken away from the Bible, then where are we to turn for truth after these deliberate corruptions of scripture? Poetic rhyming is actually the repetition of sound; either the same sound or similar sound. Accordingly, when Cyrus read this, and admired the Divine power, an earnest desire and ambition seized upon him to fulfill what was so written.--Antiquities of the Jews, Book II, p. 321. This was foretold by Isaiah one hundred and forty years before the temple was demolished. unto All Nations of the Earth: According to Donald Parry, "staircase parallelism" is a (Hebrew) poetical device where there is an apparent stepping up from one sense to another, until at the pinnacle is a culmination of thought. Third, the context of the passage itself demonstrates that John was talking about the book of Revelation not the entire Bible. . For behold, I shall speak unto the Jews and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the Nephites and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the other tribes of the house of Israel, which I have led away, and they            shall write it; and I shall also speak unto all nations of the earth and they shall write it, [Donald W. Parry, The Book of Mormon Text Reformatted according to Parallelistic Patterns, F.A.R.M.S., pp. When more literal and precisely translated versions are used, the parallelism or repetition of thought becomes more visible. How truly did the Book of Mormon prophesy of them--"A Bible! (Mormon Doctrine, pp. (Salt Lake City, UT: Greg Kofford Books, 2007), 2:60. E Nay; but ye have cursed them, and have hated them, and have not sought to recover them. In it Nephi included a revelation he received from the Lord showing the reaction of many latter-day gentiles to the addition of another book of scripture. He continues, "Scribes sometimes changed their manuscripts to render them more patently orthodox [i.e. But as demonstrated, a universal poetry could not use the repetition of sound for different languages. After his passing, the brothers of Nephi (Laman and Lemuel) rebel against him and try to kill him. B 1 2. A A Bible, we have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible. It is in this context only that the passage above can be construed to refer to the entire Bible. Title Page. 2 Nephi 9. . (. . 2 Ne 2:29 the will of the flesh and the evil which is therein… giveth the spirit of the devil power (Commentary edited by David Mulholland) Joseph Smith. , how the early Christian church changed many of the early texts of the Bible to fit its particular theology. (First Nephi, The Doctrinal Foundation, BYU Religious Studies Center, p. 15 as taken from Latter-day Commentary on the Book of Mormon compiled by K. Douglas Bassett, p. 163), "Lost books are among the treasures yet to come forth. And what of the Savior's post-resurrection teachings. 113, 116, 140]. "Strikingly, with the exception of the smallest fragments, no two of these copies are exactly alike in all their particulars. . 202-3). . 2 Nephi 4. They were led north after the Assyrian captivity and have since been referred to as the Lost Ten Tribes. Hugh Nibley takes the interpretation even one step further: "These words are those of the prophet Nephi, found in the Book of Mormon, a book which in many such passages opens a window on other worlds. All rights reserved. This tenet holds that the Bible must be 'completely authoritative and trustworthy in all that it asserts as factual, whether in matters of theology, history, or science.' , 8). The Lord operates by the system of witnesses. For centuries they were persecuted as prophesied, thou shalt be only oppressed and crushed alway...thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither the Lord shall lead thee (Deut 28:33,37). believe that they are more favored than the Patriarchs because they have the book that tells the story. See Brant A. Gardner, Second Witness: Analytical and Contextual Commentary on the Book of Mormon, 6 vols. This contest persists into the afterlife because there he deals with those who have fallen under the sway of Satan’s powers. (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 348). It was indeed the Jews who produced the Bible but the Gentiles, historically, had treated the Jews with disdain. [Matthew B. For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over. First, Nephi does not keep the verses in the same order as the King James Version (KJV). ", The Lord then responds to the Gentiles (plural) in verses 4 and 5, as numerous verbal clues attest. He notes that there are 5,366 copies of the original New Testament texts that have survived over time. [Amy Blake Hardison, "Being a Covenant People," in Covenants Prophecies and Hymns of the Old Testament, p. 26]. 88. If "plain and precious parts" were taken away from the Bible, then where are we to turn for truth after these deliberate corruptions of scripture? The Bible, it is held, 'does not contain error of any kind.'. The Bible itself provides clear evidence that it is not complete since it mentions scriptural texts that are now missing. We Have Got a Bible and There Cannot Be Any More Bible: Richardson, Richardson and Bentley write that for evidence to their unfounded objection to additional scripture, critics often cite Revelations 22:18-19, which forbids, from adding to or taking "away from the words of the book of, prophecy," and accuse Joseph Smith of doing just that. 113, 116, 140]. Where are the records of these important truths? See also commentary for 1 Ne 14:7 and 2 Ne 25:17. The Book of Mormon itself provides the answer--"For, behold, saith the Lamb: I will manifest myself unto thy seed, that they shall write many things which I shall minister unto them, which shall be plain and precious; and after thy seed shall be destroyed, and dwindle in unbelief, and also the seed of thy brethren, behold, these things shall be hid up, to come forth unto the Gentiles, by the gift and power of the Lamb" (1 Nephi 13:35). . It read first, 'The head one of the Gods brought forth the Gods.' The Lord has said he would bring forth his word unto all the nations of the earth. . (3 Ne. The Book of Mormon itself provides the answer--"For, behold, saith the Lamb: I will manifest myself unto thy seed, that they shall write many things which I shall minister unto them, which shall be plain and precious; and after thy seed shall be destroyed, and dwindle in unbelief, and also the seed of thy brethren, behold, these things shall be hid up, to come forth unto the Gentiles, by the gift and power of the Lamb" (1 Nephi 13:35). 110:11.) He notes that there are 5,366 copies of the original New Testament texts that have survived over time. : In 2 Nephi 29, a statement is made concerning the origin of the Bible: Have ye obtained a bible save it were by the Jews?" What if it was originally composed in Hebrew, but when properly translated into English, Russian, Chinese or another language, it retained its essence and beauty? They are apparently unaware that this same mandate was given over a thousand years earlier in Deuteronomy 4:2: "Ye shall not add unto the words which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you." The real meaning of the scripture is that the commandments of God should not be altered. What is incredible is that the "Christians" . Just as the Bible is a collection of many books, and the Book of Mormon is a collection also, likewise the records of the ten lost tribes will probably be a collection of various books. . (McConkie and Millet, Sustaining and Defending the Faith, pp. Consider the child's poem: Las rosas son rojas, las violetas son azules. . . D But behold, I will return all these things upon your own heads; C for I the Lord have not forgotten my people. This was foretold by Isaiah one hundred and forty years before the temple was demolished. . Yet it is rejected in the name of loyalty to the Bible. This great gathering will take place under the direction of the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for he holds the keys of 'the gathering of Israel from the four parts of the earth, and the leading of the ten tribes from the land of the north.' I Covenanted with Abraham That, And it shall come to pass that my people, which are of the house of Israel, shall be gathered home unto the lands of their possessions; and my word also shall be gathered in one. That means that every time in the history of the world that there has been a prophecy or revelation, that there should also be a recording of it... and it isn't a burden type thing, because it is supposed to help us when we are judged. and no polytheist can be saved!" We Have Got a Bible: According to an article by Kevin Barney, at the end of the first decade of this century, Thomas Brookbank, a one-time associate editor of the, , published some articles on Hebrew idioms that suggested that, , meaning the substitution of the singular for the plural or vice versa for rhetorical effect, is present in the Book of Mormon. . Most people who cry, we have got a Bible, and there cannot be any more Bible, have no idea why they believe that. Jews among the Christian nations of Europe were slaughtered solely because they were Jews. What evidence do we have? (2 Nephi 29:3). . They have virtually replaced God with the Bible--a god composed of wood pulp and ink--covered with black cowhide leather, and pages that are lined with Gold--set high upon the podium before the people, where all can both see and worship! Have ye obtained a Bible save it were by the Jews? The many other meanings of this passage are explained by Elder McConkie. . This great gathering will take place under the direction of the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for he holds the keys of "the gathering of Israel from the four parts of the earth, and the leading of the ten tribes from the land of the north" (D&C 110:11). He lived right among the Jews when he wrote it, all those many years in Bethlehem. . I vote Ether 3-4 as the next area of commentary, for what that’s worth. From our latter-day perspective we see that the covenants God made with Abraham extended not only to the Exodus but even thousands of years beyond, to the current gathering of Israel. Where are these records? 2 Nephi 15. Isaiah 29 is one of the most often cited scriptural passages of the Restoration. have ye remembered the Jews, mine ancient covenant people? Rosh--the head. There will be 'one fold and one shepherd' (1 Ne 22:25 in a welding together of all the Christian dispensations of human history (see DC 128:18)." Indeed, the Prophet Joseph Smith would declare in 1832 that "From sundry revelations which have been received, it was apparent that many important points touching the salvation of man, had been taken from the Bible, or lost before it was compiled" (, , 1:245). Accordingly, when Cyrus read this, and admired the Divine power, an earnest desire and ambition seized upon him to fulfill what was so written.--. . . . This chapter describes Satan's latter-day attack on the Book of Mormon. A good example is found in 2 Nephi 29:3-6: And because my words shall hiss forth--many of the Gentiles shall say: A A Bible! . . They worked with the Jews, etc. Preface This has paired elements at all three levels of indentation, but it can’t be rearranged into a chevron or a double echelon. We should not be surprised to find out one day that many of the writings the ancient Orient, Near East, and Africa have divine origins. "Many ancient prophecies foretold that in the last days the Lord would set up an ensign to the nations, a standard to which Israel and the righteous of all nations might gather. (A Marvelous Work and a Wonder, pp. In essence, 2 Nephi 27 (Isaiah 29) is a detailed prophecy about the coming forth of the Book of Mormon. The purpose of the Law of Moses was to teach and testify of Christ. So what plain and precious parts were taken away from the Bible? . ... 2 Nephi 29. Many Shall Say in That Day: A Bible! 2 Nephi 29:9 And Because That I Have Spoken One Word, Ye Need Not Suppose That I Cannot Speak Another: Nephi quotes the Lord as saying to those in the last days: And because that I have spoken one word ye need not suppose that I cannot speak another; for my work is not yet finished; neither shall it be until the end of man, neither from that time henceforth and forever. Although there were isolated attacks on its contents, its supreme authority in the United States was generally well-accepted. (Compendium, p. [Allen H. Richardson, David E. Richardson and Anthony E. Bentley, 1000 Evidences for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: Part Two-A Voice from the Dust: 500 Evidences in Support of the Book of Mormon, p. 91] [See the commentary on 1 Nephi 13:26]. A Bible! Bookmarks Edit. If such a passage is meant to imply that there cannot be any more scripture, then everything in the Bible after Deuteronomy must be false. No, certainly not. The commentary accepts the best modern scholarship, which focuses on a particular region of Mesoamerica as the most plausible location for the Book of Mormon’s setting. ", According to Amy Hardison, in most covenant treaties of the past, the suzerain (or lord) stated that the covenant was to remain effective forever. He will not destroy a people for wickedness until they have been adequately warned. F have ye remembered the Jews, mine ancient covenant people? The Latin Bible is Jerome's Bible. When John says, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book he is referring to the plagues discussed in Revelation 15 &16 not the plagues written in the New Testament. This was known to Cyrus by his reading the book which Isaiah left behind him of his prophecies, for this prophet said that God had spoken thus to him in a secret vision: "My will is, that Cyrus whom I have appointed to be king over many and great nations, send back my people to their own land, and build my temple." Elder Maxwell explains what the third witness is. Richardson, Richardson and Bentley write that for evidence to their unfounded objection to additional scripture, critics often cite Revelations 22:18-19, which forbids mankind from adding to or taking "away from the words of the book of this prophecy," and accuse Joseph Smith of doing just that. This branch of Israel is by far the largest, at least by the number of involved tribes. 2 Nephi 29:11-14 It is interesting that everyone is commanded to write the words that God speaks. Thus, we see that the Gentiles should have been thankful to the Jews, they should have been seeking to reestablish them in the lands of their inheritance, and they should have been treating them as the Lord's covenant people. It is the only one by which all this can be accounted for. Elder B. H. Roberts explains: "Elder B. H. Roberts offered the following counsel on this principle: While the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is established for the instruction of men; and is one of God's instrumentalities for making known the truth, yet he is not limited to that institution for such purposes, neither in time nor place. This reasoning would eliminate the vast majority of the Holy Bible from Deuteronomy chapter 5 on to Revelations chapter 22--over a thousand pages of the. . B But thus saith the Lord God: O fools, they shall have a Bible; C and it shall proceed forth from the Jews, mine ancient covenant people. (Apocrypha, 2 Esdras 13:40-47), "...The Lost Tribes are not lost unto the Lord. Man in no instance, in and of himself, has ever been able to accomplish anything comparable with it. Rosh--the head. There is excellent historical evidence from ancient historians Xenophon and Josephus that Isaiah did indeed use the name "Cyrus" long before the Babylonish captivity and the birth of Cyrus. One historian studied seventy-five hundred "eternal" treaties that were signed between 1500 B.C. This explains why a poet may be very popular within one area of the world but entirely unappreciated in others. They were still a distinct people many hundreds of years later, for the resurrected Lord visited and ministered among them following his ministry on this continent among the Nephites. Keys are the right of presidency, the power to direct; and by this power the Lost Tribes will return, with "their prophets" and their scriptures to "be crowned with glory, even in Zion, by the hands of the servants of the Lord, even the children of Ephraim." Every time Nephi refers in a prophesy to the "isles of the sea," he is thinking about the land of promise. They depended a lot on Luther. (Isa. See also commentary for 1 Ne 14:7 and 2 Ne 25:17. Fourth, a very similar passage is found in Deuteronomy 4:2: 'Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.'. In order to do this, of course, Reuchlin and the others became ardent Hebraists. And from Hebrews, Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever (Heb 13:8). : In 2 Nephi 29, a statement is made concerning the origin of the Bible: Have ye obtained a bible save it were by the Jews?" They contend that all man ever needs to know regarding God and salvation is contained in its pages. . And what of the Savior's post-resurrection teachings. I am God, and . the Lost Tribes of Israel: Among the things to be accomplished by the multiple books of scripture are: (1) to give a multiple witness of Christ; (2) to show that the Lord does speak the same gospel to one people as to another, and (3) to prove that God does honor his covenant that he made with Abraham, promising to remember his seed forever (2 Nephi 29:14). God raises up wise men . Ignorant translators, careless transcribers, or designing and corrupt priests have committed many errors" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 327). As mentioned in the commentary for 2 Nephi 26, however, there are differences between Isaiah's and Nephi's versions of these materials. G in bringing forth salvation unto the Gentiles? 4 thoughts on “ 2 Nephi 33: 4 ” Anonymous says: September 5, 2010 at 6:59 AM. In 2 Nephi 27, Nephi borrowed extensively from the language of Isaiah 29 to describe the coming forth of the Book of Mormon. Most of the time when the scriptures speak of the ensign lifted up in the last days, it refers to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written" (John 21:25), emphasis added; see also John 20:30). 2 Nephi 29:3 reads, "And because my words shall hiss forth--many of the, shall say: A Bible! In order to do this, of course, Reuchlin and the others became ardent Hebraists. Who knows, perhaps this Isaiah passage originally looked more like 2 Nephi 26-27, but comparing with Isaiah 29 as it looks now in the KJV demonstrates a very complex relationship between the two texts. It was written with the intent to show the world that Jesus is the Christ, the Eternal God, manifesting himself unto all nations (Moroni's Title Page). Why is this a divine form? It's from them we get our King James Bible more than anyone else. I then began to point out to him, that in keeping with the archaeological and historical discoveries of this century, most "Christian" scholars have now come to the conclusion that the Patriarchs were Polytheists--even the Bible bears witness of it--and it is now regarded as a fact--and no honest scholar will deny it! 237 Lecture 23 2 Nephi 32-33; Jacob 1-2 . A Bible! We Have Got a Bible: According to an article by Kevin Barney, at the end of the first decade of this century, Thomas Brookbank, a one-time associate editor of the Latter-Day Saints' Millennial Star, published some articles on Hebrew idioms that suggested that enallage, meaning the substitution of the singular for the plural or vice versa for rhetorical effect, is present in the Book of Mormon. [Lee Donaldson, "Plain and Precious Parts," Book of Mormon Commentary, www.ldsworld.com] [See the commentary on 1 Nephi 13:25-29]. 2 Nephi 10. The Latin Bible is Jerome's Bible. Among the things to be accomplished by the multiple books of scripture are: (1) to give a multiple witness of Christ; (2) to show that the Lord does speak the same gospel to one people as to another, and (3) to prove that God does honor his covenant that he made with Abraham, promising to remember his seed forever (2 Nephi 29:14). Rhyming poetry is lost in translation, but notice what occurs when the parallelism of this verse is translated into Spanish: Although the words have changed from English to Spanish, the repetition and pattern of words is obvious even to those who do not understand Spanish. . Thus the head God brought forth the Gods in the grand council. It is equally apparent that a main body retained its identity and heritage. [Hugh W. Nibley, , Semester 1, p. 351] [See also the commentary on 1 Nephi 5:11 concerning the Septuagint]. The first time was when the Lord led Israel out of Egyptian bondage and captivity." 2 Nephi 2. (2 Nephi 29:6). Jerome lived fifteen years in Bethlehem. How were they taken away? for the Bible which they receive from them? (2 Nephi 29:3, 6) (Fred C. Collier, "Doctrine of the Priesthood: New Light on the Ancient Hebrew/Christian Doctrine on Deity," Part 1., pp. "Strikingly, with the exception of the smallest fragments, no two of these copies are exactly alike in all their particulars. (2 Nephi 29:13). So is it accurate to say that the Bible contains the. "Thou fool, that shall say: 'A Bible, we have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible.'" The lost ten tribes will produce the third witness that Jesus is the Christ. / Doctrine & Covenants 10 / Commentary Find helpful commentary on the verses below to better understand the message of this revelation. Bart Ehrman, an Associate Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina, chronicles in his book. III, pp. 1, p. 347). In other words Mormons have an extra task put upon them--all the other "Christians" can believe in any one of a thousand different and contradictory doctrines, but they are all saved in a pile regardless--but the Mormons must believe in true theology or they will be damned--in other words, only Mormons must have works! This is a double inverted parallel: 4' the Nephites and the Jews. Then, just as the Perfect Shepherd has said, 'My word also shall be gathered in one' (v. 14). 2 Nephi 11. 250 . . I shall comment on the very first Hebrew word in the Bible; I will make a comment on the very first sentence of the history of creation in the Bible--"Berosheit" I want to analyze the word. Does the Bible at least provide us with a complete record of Christ's earthly ministry? A Bible! The apostle John informs us that "there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written" (John 21:25), emphasis added; see also John 20:30). Lecture 24 Jacob 3-4 . We Have Got a Bible, and There Cannot Be Any More Bible: A Bible! Apparently, he understands that we learn through repetition. . This thought process is false for the following reasons-first the books that we know as the New Testament were not compiled at the time of John's writing. B 1 2. Chiasmus is a form of inverted parallelism. . [Hugh W. Nibley, Teachings of the Book of Mormon, Semester 1, p. 351] [See also the commentary on 1 Nephi 5:11 concerning the Septuagint]. The Gentiles are chastised by the Lord for using the Bible with an attitude of ingratitude. (Ensign, Nov. 1986, p. 52 as taken from Latter-day Commentary on the Book of Mormon compiled by K. Douglas Bassett, p. 163). 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